lolana07:
Ahaahaha this show and randomly bringing their characters back together in impossible ways I LOVE how ridiculous this is LMFAO
I really can’t stand Nick and Madison and wherever their characters are supposed to be going. Nick hasn’t really developed, and his reunion with Ofelia highlighted that. Which says a lot, bc Ofelia has had incredibly less screen time than Nick this season, and has been largely in the background. Nick shouldn’t have killed Jer, and then he’s prancing around with Troy and now trying to talk down scared ppl, but when push comes to shove, he’s still a lost character. I’m really hard on him, but I don’t understand what is motivation is, or where his development should be going, which makes me think his whole plot is useless…If not to support Madison caring about her ‘kids’.
Madison is now a danger to those around her, she’s all over the place idk what is happening with her. She still thinks shes a great decision maker, and takes it upon herself to decide how its going to be. Legit anything bad that happens from ehre on out with her storyline is 100% entirely her fault, for not talking to Qaletaqa first about freeing strand. What if there was another way? Not really worth writing about her tbh, her whole character is off kilter. She should have killed Troy, but didn’t, and now it’s going to come back a bite her and she’s going to have to save Nick later on.
Yay Ofelia for about 7 minutes of a 2 episode premiere! Everything I never knew I wanted for that character…
Daniel..yep. Giving water to the people and still looking for Ofelia and if she would magically appear in the exact same location he is..like that would ever happen.. I can’t overlook how much I do like his scenes though, as a standalone for the character. They are gorgeous, and, without the ‘I escaped death’ plot hole, I really do like his arc… And now his plot will get messed up bc BadNewsMadison is on her way..
Alicia Alicia Alicia. This episode was awesome for her. She was on point and finally broke free from Madison and Nick’s shadow, found her voice and saw the bigger picture and got sh*t done. Yes, it was not smart to just drop the ‘we-have-no-water’ bomb that way, but dammit she did what a leader would do and trusted ALL the people, took the best option and worked as a team to fix the problem in a peaceful manner. Ahh! Yes! Our girl is growing up and I’m so proud! The writers are doing her character good! (if not so good on Madison/Nick..)
- Lying isn’t useful mom! Walk out that gate and get out if you don’t like it! We keep trying to get her to love us but she’s broken YAASSS!
- She’s over Madison, and it’s sad to watch. Mom’s only way to connect with her is through Alicia’s obvious Jake relationship, and when I say obvious, I mean Madison legit has no other talking point besides, Jake, Nick and status report.. the walkie talkie is a great depiction of how removed the relationship is. My only negative is that she’s still giving Nick a free pass, but dammit Nick learned from her and dear goodness I hope he continues to listen to her and follow her once Madison gets back.
How this scene just sums up this family:
‘Alicia!’
‘Hi Mo—’
‘How’s Nick? Are you taking care of him?’
‘…He’s alive.’
‘Okay great and tell me about all the other things going on besides how you are doing’
‘Its all peachy Mom, just fracking peachy. Later’
Small Thoughts
- When did the solar panels get there? That’s high-tech for a dilapidated ranch in the middle of nowhere.
- Calling it, Troy is going to kill Jake at some point.
- I was so happy someone remembered crazy Gretch until she got used as a way to attack the newcomers.
- They showed a trailer for Friend Request with the episode, which is great for Alycia.
Prediction
So they are going to do to the dam with Strand leading the way, Daniel will be there and that reunion with Ofelia will make me cry, and something crazy will happen just in time to make me think, ah yes i do want to continue watching.
@zombiechels @thedoctor-smith
Thank you for sharing this, some good thoughts. 🙂
I just read an interview with the executive producer on this and he described Madison as basically being the ‘bad guy’ even though that’s not how she starts out. I think they’re writing her in a way to suggest ‘this is how the Governor started.’ Which bothers me because…his daughter didn’t turn out so well! So, I suppose her development makes sense then, if that’s the direction they will carry her.
I think you’re right about Nick, what motivates him? Guilt? Then again, who knows how to act in a situation you’ve never imagined you’d be in in your life? He’s kind of a fool and I can see him being captured (by Troy?) or getting lost in that weird ‘bazaar’ Madison and Walker went to.
The producer also mentioned how there is a Big Bad coming, someone worse than Jeremiah, but the only person I can imagine is Troy (would they introduce a completely new character so late in the season?). I can picture Troy reconnecting with his militia eejits or coming through with a new band of nitwits to cause mayhem, maybe make him a kind of Negan-like character, hellbent on revenge against Madison (and her family).
Then again, we’re all forgetting about Luciana (who has SHE connected with – some people from the bazaar, perhaps?). She has no reason to love the ranch or the Ottos (maybe she kills Jake or Troy or none). There could be something big coming for that ranch.
I’m curious how things will fall apart further once Madison and Co reach the dam – since Daniel wasn’t Victor’s number one fan when they last met – might be explosive.
I think you’re right about Jake and Troy. Or, perhaps, Jake really is sick and he dies and turns, mercy killed by Alicia? I kind of hate that idea, though, because it’s a little Clarke/Finn-ish (speaking of, notice how Madison is a lot like Clarke and the use of ‘death is not the end? I think this show is dragging t100 a bit).
I can’t see the ranch lasting, so where do they go from there? I can’t see the kids following Madison now, but there must a confrontation betwixt her and Troy by the end (and the murder of Jeremiah being revealed).
I do wonder if there will be another ‘big death’ by the end, or what the group configuration is going to look like. Ofelia’s connection to Walker might help them with Daniel and the water situation (for a minute), if the ranch goes to hell, where does that leave Madison? I can’t see how they can keep this cast together, all in the same proximity for any reason – if they keep meeting again in ridiculous coincidences, that will get old quick. I can’t help but feel they might be writing themselves up a chimney here.
If I could imagine what might happen for the future, perhaps it goes like this:
- At the dam, Daniel learns of Ofelia, agrees to help them get water but they are sabotaged somehow. I think Daniel will be key in the fight at the end.
- Alicia’s goodwill gesture holds off the hostilities, gets her and Ofelia working together again. Doesn’t stop the militia from being eejits, though. Something is going to sabotage them.
- I can’t see where Victor fits into any of this, unless he winds up around Troy (or Luciana) and something twisted happens as a result. Victor manipulates others to his ends and not always successfully, so he’ll be looking for a good bet to get himself in someplace he can play Benevolent Leader.
- I think the Clark’s have to separate by the end, but where to go? Who would follow Madison? Walker is with his Nation, would Ofelia stay with him, with Daniel along? If the ranch is destroyed, everyone will be looking for a new home. I can picture Alicia going it alone (who does she have to connect to, really – she’s the only sane, moral person around who hasn’t been corrupted by what she has experienced) – but, remembering she helped save Luciana, perhaps something to do with her comes up (or she is spared because of this). It’s hard to read.
- I hope the Nation survives.
- I hope we hear more from the cosmonaut, too.
- Can Alicia just head out to NASA on her own?