Their whiteness is more important than their womanhood to them.
White women want the power of white men.
White women cannot be trusted.
Not all white women. Not this white woman. To put us all into this category won’t help. I will continue to fight for all my friends.
actually, i think otherwise! to put us all into this category highlights our position of power over people whose voices were not heard at the polls yesterday.
it’s like…
rapists can’t be trusted, right? rapists are the absolute scum of the earth. and what’s worse is not knowing who is a rapist. someone in your circle of friends? someone you pass on the street? the person ahead of you in line at starbucks? so you close yourself off from someone who has that power over you. maybe just a little bit, but you’re aware of how you could be hurt. you make plans in your head about how you’d escape if you were attacked; you’re aware of the person behind you at the atm; you go quiet when they start talking about how they treated their dates.
and if a guy said “not all men are rapists!” you’d say, “yeah, but all men can be rapists.”
it makes sense that people of color would put up their barriers and make escape plans from us. with that history, when have we really been allies? when have we been anything but fair-weather friends who love beyonce but think “ghetto” black girls are trashy? how can they know which one of us is one of the nearly 70% of white women in america who voted for trump? which one of us in starbucks or passing by on the street would betray them – has already betrayed them?
there’s a lot that we white women have to do into order to prove ourselves to black women and black communities. it’s really hard to stand up against the status quo, especially when we’re very aware of what we could lost if we speak up. (there goes your job, your friends, your opportunities….) but if black women are living without those opportunities every day, then we have a responsibility to work until they have them and no one can take them away. it’s not up to people of color to give us leeway; it’s up to us to work with our fellow white women to help them understand change.
I cringed when I saw “not all white women”. Fucking seriously? Honey, that shit didn’t work when men tried it on us, don’t try it to our sisters of color.
I accept that women of color will be afraid/wary of me at first sight. I don’t blame them for that. Instead of being angry that they would class me with other white women, I’m just going to be that much more aware of times and places where I can use the privilege of my skin color to try and make them safer. Even if the next one that sees me is still afraid.
Why? Because, in that situation, MY FEELINGS AREN‘T IMPORTANT. It’s not about ME. It’s not about YOU, fellow white woman who was so insulted to be grouped with those white women. No, I didn’t vote for Trump. But even if I walked around wearing a shirt that claimed otherwise all the time, women of color cannot look at me and know for sure that I’m not one of those white women.
If women of color are fearful of me as a white person (who passes as female), then I understand that. The fear born of something real that they experienced or have witnessed other’s experiencing. Who am I to invalidate their feelings?
Sure, I’ll let them know I’ll try my hardest to be an ally. But at the same time I’m not going to try to convince them of this because I want to make myself feel better or convince myself I’m not part of the problem. As a white person, I benefit from that privilege and I’m prone to doing racist shit. I accept that, and I try my hardest to fix it. But I can’t escape it entirely and it’s asinine that white people think they can escape it.
We can and must do better. We must. Our sisters of color are in even more danger than us, and we have to stand WITH them, not next to them decrying the idea that WE’RE the good ones.
I refuse to allow “not all men” to be a conversation in my hearing, and I refuse also, “not all white women.” No. Stop it. White women have harmed women of color. That is the point. We white women who don’t want to be lumped in with those white women need to amplify the voices of our sisters, not justify that we’re the good ones.
Woah, I’ve nearly to never seen a post like this
👏🏾👏🏾👏🏾👏🏾
Keep it coming ladies.
We cannot expect to be taken seriously if we scoff at men who say “not all men” and then turn our white asses around and say “BUT NOT ALL WHITE WOMEN.”*
*I’m nonbinary & Jewish but I’m aware I’m perceived as a white woman and have the conditional acceptance as both so better fucking own it.
I don’t care who you voted for, white woman like me, we are “in that category” whether we like it or not. Facts are facts. Good intentions are paving stones.
I guarantee the woman with the Trump bumpersticker on her gas guzzling SUV sees my white (not young) face in the Kroger and assumes I voted like she did. She smiles at me, but gives sass to the young Muslim girl in a hijab who works at the store. And until we own that, we can’t respond to the fact that 2/3 of us voted for Trump with a “not me.” It’s a badge we haven’t earned and we can’t wear it.
White feminism is a real, dangerous, tangible thing and we need to fight that first because that is how we help our WOC/POC friends.
Since Trump was elected, 867 CONFIRMED hate crimes/incidents have been reported (SPLC)
I blame white people for this whole shit.
And you really have to stop and consider how DIFFICULT IT IS for something to get declared an actual hate crime. Like, this is just shit so egregious that it can’t be denied. This is just the tip of the iceberg.
yes you’re allowed to like problematic things but the majority of white wlw fandom migrating to sanvers is one example of us as white wlw needing to do better
I have read your post at least 5 times I still don’t get what you are trying to say.
I’m talking about white fans ignoring latinx fans concerns that the role of maggie is white washed (floriana is italian not latina as advertised), I’m talking about 1000s of white fans supporting SG and nearly none supporting shows with black wlw like queen sugar, I’m talking about white SG fans ignoring black fans discussing the racism inherent in sidelining james as a love interest without explanation after a season of buildup, I’m talking about praising the representation of a blindingly white show that has only two MOC and no major WOC. We need to do better than uncritically jumping on every show that has two thin, young, attractive, white women kiss no matter how racist the show is. And I’m not saying people are inherently wrong for liking sanvers or watching SG, but too many fans are remaining uncritical and responding to latinx fans discussing why the white washing is awful with “anyway i love floriana lima” or even arguing italian people are latinx or poc.
I just hit reblog so hard it could have cracked a key. Of course, we are starved for wlw representation and will flock to any show where it appears (and usually be met with immanent death), but there’s more going on in these shows (and often that actually TELLS us they’re immanently going to fuck up wlw storylines, but we miss it). Right now, the show is trying to nab progressive points based mainly on fake stuff. What could be whiter than that?
I had not even recognized Maggie’s character as white-washed, because I bought that she was latinx like a jackass without looking it up. (I’d have found that if I had tried to find out whether she was a wlw in real life, but I didn’t even have the will to look, it was so unlikely). That’s classic white racism. What was obvious still was that instead of Maggie’s presence bringing in other queer, latinx, and poc friends, she brought in more aliens who are symbolic parallels for marginalized people. But only humanoid aliens centered at the forefront are even genuinely humanized in the show. I thought about her being supplanted from her own community and into the white world of the show even just within the fake world of the narrative.
They’re also literally trying to play Mon-El as a character whose people abstractly suffered from Kara’s people’s prejudices and the underdog as Kara’s love interest, because apparently on her planet, there was a prejudice against men who happen to be basically the equivalent of earth’s frat boys. He is really a Ken doll to replace Jimmy, who I guess was supposed to be read as a “bad match” for Kara. There’s a lot of racist slight of hand, and it’s frankly not all that slight.
It’s not that folks shouldn’t care this much about wlw representations when they’re white or even when they’re subtext. That’s where people’s minds go when they read stuff like this. Like, please, ship the hell out of Supercat and Supercorp. It is that a lack of intersectional awareness that creates a lopsided critique of these shows severely weakens our capacity for solidarity and hope to demand genuine change in cultural representation in our lifetimes. That’s what we want, right? To disrupt hegemony and existing power relationships through media representation? Right? So that people generally erased and demeaned can see themselves reflected and honored in stories? And you can’t disrupt one thread of hegemony and ignore all the others. The systems of power are interwoven, so the solutions have to be interwoven, as well.
You cannot challenge racism, on this level, by being nice to and reaching out to white supremacists. Their entire ideology revolves around dehumanizing us. It just does. not. work.
You cannot fight fascism by prioritizing the feelings of fascists and letting them think they’re safe around you. You don’t “get them on your side”. Because treating them kindly and respecting them, gives them your silent approval and access to those of you who are way more vulnerable than you are and who cannot afford to feel safe enough to “debate” with these monsters.
Our humanity is not a question or a debate topic, and by giving these people a platform you legitimize their views and help spread them to a larger audience.
Then… How did it work for this guy?
They shot him in the fucking head.
Say that shit again!
They shot him in the fucking head.
They shot him in the fucking head.
They shot him in the fucking head.
They shot him in the fucking head.
The idea that MLK was ‘nice’ to white supremacists is also just historical revisionism @kuurihaunt.
He was sent death threats. The FBI considered him dangerous. People assaulted and murdered many of his followers. White America thought he was too confrontational and not appeasing enough to the sensibilities of whites. He was considered disruptive and an “outside agitator.” He was not a beloved man. He was hated and despised.
His protests came with the risk of being brutalized or killed by police or vigilantes. He decried the white moderate for caring more about order than justice. He refused to condemn riots, ‘the language of the unheard,’ because of how violent America was to Black people. Despite their differences, Malcolm X offered him protection and self-defense. Even though he was committed to nonviolent resistance, which meant breaking the law, disrupting traffic and yes – willingly opening yourself to being brutalized, he was more complicated than you give him credit.
The United States hated him and for his troubles he was killed.
He was not the caricature of nonviolence you think he was. Read a fucking book.
ok i’m gonna need white wlw to realize that while yes, you cannot objectify other women in the way men do bc you don’t have the male gaze, you can absolutely objectify other women racially.
like i’ve seen way too many white wlw use really gross stereotypes and descriptions when talking about wlw of color. just because you don’t have the male gaze doesn’t mean you don’t have the white gaze, which is inherently violent and harmful as well. honestly i’m here for wlw of color who are wary about dating white wlw for this reason. i am too. i don’t know if you want to date me bc i’m helping you perform some fake ass “i’m not racist” agenda or bc it’s some gross, fetishistic fantasy of yours to be with a woman of color.
but we are not here to be fetishized or tokenized by white women.
There is drone footage of this that clearly shows water cannons deliberately fired onto the water protectors.
This is what happens to indigenous peoples trying to protect their land and have clean water.
When whites do it? Ask Ammon Bundy.
Bigger question: why hasn’t the president intervened?
What he says: Safe spaces are bullshit! This is the Pussification of America!
What he means: I want to spout bigoted shit whenever, wherever I feel like it. Having to consider other people is a threat to my sovereignty as a cishetero white guy. I am used to the privilege of expressing myself any way I want 24/7. The existence of any space, anywhere that doesn’t allow me to do that emasculates me, and that is frightening. My masculinity is so fragile that the theoretical existence of a space where my expression is in any way curbed makes me question my validity as a man and a human. That is so scary. The world should tailor itself to my expectations because that’s how it’s always been. Other people experiencing a level playing field where I can’t assert my privilege makes me feel like less of a man. What do I do now? Oh I know: keep telling ppl that safe spaces are bullshit, and if they still don’t believe it, I’ll have to make violent threats and maybe act out.
The Doctor Is Out 