sending love to anyone who can’t afford to miss school or work tomorrow despite the fact that they won’t be getting any sleep tonight and will also be in sheer pain to a point they can’t function correctly
Also sending love for ppl that have to hear it from racist ass customers, coworkers, students, family, etc that are happy about this shit
You people are overreacting way too much oh my god
imagine being this white let alone insensitive
Just realistic here. It’s not like world is ending like chill and then if it really happens like that then you can react like this.
imagine being this white let alone insensitive
imagine being this white let alone insensitive
This is the country that white people wanted.
I don’t want to hear them say “not all whites”.
Yes, all whites.
Whites overwhelmingly voted Trump.
Whites stand by their fathers, their mothers, their grandmothers, their grandfathers, all the way down their line saying, “slavery was so long ago,” “she/he can’t help it, they’re old, it’s a different time for them.”
All whites.
So when people say, “hey white people, what’s going on with you?” don’t you dare respond with, “I’m different, I’m not like ‘those’ whites.”
I have to respectfully disagree with this.
You say “This is the country that white people wanted. I don’t want to hear them say “not all whites”. Yes, all whites”
So by your logic it was my wish to hold my wife while she cried herself to sleep last night because in just a little over two months we have no idea what the status of our marriage will be (I’m non-binary born female) or whether or not at some point in the next four years we will have shock conversion therapy forced on us because of who we love.
To say that all white people wanted that desiccated Cheeto in power is as ignorant as Trump / his supporters talking about how all Hispanic people are rapist and drug traffickers and all Muslim people are terrorists.
Making general assumptions about a group of people and their beliefs based on the color of their skin is wrong no matter who is on the receiving end.
Now yes the majority of people who voted for the spray tan in a wig were white, but there were plenty of people in minority groups that also voted for that bright orange gas bag. There were also plenty more people of every shape, creed and color that voted third party, which if you watched the coverage last night you know was what spit the vote that should have all gone to Hillary and really tipped this whole shit show over the edge.
This whole election came down to uneducated, ignorant people voting for the loud man who knows how to string lots of small words together, and people hopelessly trying to rebel against what we all know is realistically a two party system.
Breaking it down into a racial issue is not only incorrect and needlessly inflammatory, it’s also oversimplifying and ignoring the real problem.
As someone who is also white, queer, and also voted for Hillary–I think you may be missing the point of what OP and previous posters are saying.
The fact is, that white people–across all political brackets, including age, gender, and educational levels–did vote for for Trump. By a majority. This isn’t the fault of poor white people without a college education (man, we love to blame those guys); this is the fault of white people, across the board. You and I might not have voted for this, but our neighbors did. Our relatives did. Our coworkers did.
In fact, if you look at the demographic charts, it becomes clear that the only groups who voted for Trump, by a majority, were white people. Across all political brackets. No one else.
Yes, white people are responsible for Trump’s election.
Now, we can sit back and blame third party voters. We can try to blame millennials (which I am one) and say, “If only more had shown up”. But that doesn’t change the fact that enough white people still voted for Trump to elect him. And, apparently, we were so incredibly uninterested in preventing a racist, misogynist, homophobic possessed cheeto from becoming president that most of us didn’t even show up, or voted third party.
Essentially, it’s a signal that most of us thought Trump, and the ideology he ran on, wasn’t a problem. Otherwise we would have shown the fuck up.
And that ideology that he ran on? Was white supremacy. He didn’t run on a platform of anti-LGBT “protect marriage/protect the children” BS. He ran on a platform of racism.
You and I, you and I and your wife, we stand to lose a lot under a Trump-Pence presidency. No one is saying otherwise.
But hijacking someone’s post to say “Not all white people” is the same as hijacking a post about rape culture to say “Not all men”. Trust me; everyone’s aware that there are white people who voted against Trump and for Hillary.
What they’re saying is that whiteness IS the system that permitted the Trump’s election. They’re saying that white supremacy is an ideology still so ingrained in our everyday lives that this happened–and white people, even the ones throwing around “#NotMyPresident”, even the ones who are so horrified by the outcome of this election, have done jack-shit to change that fact.
That is something that we have to sit with. Ultimately, it is a reflection on us, on our dedication to eradicating white supremacy, and our allyship to people of color. Because we let this happen. Collectively.
If white supremacy wasn’t an issue, that overcooked turnip would not have been able to run on a platform of racism, xenophobia, and Islamophobia, and win. If we’d thought it was an issue, we wouldn’t have collectively gone Meh, and mostly stayed at home or voted third-party.
This election is a signal that all white people, all of us, have failed to adequately address racism and white supremacy in our communities leading up to this election. We failed to take it seriously, back before Trump was even on the map. We failed to take it seriously in previous presidential campaigns. We treated him, and the ideology he ran on, as a joke this entire time. And that cannot be on people of color to address. That has to be on us.
And we can’t tell people of color to not be angry at us, either. Because even those of us that didn’t actively vote for Trump dropped the fucking ball.
The people at Rothenberg’s level (showrunners, super successful writers, anyone famous enough to headline, etc) have the ability to create an echo chamber, surrounding themselves with people who will only back them up pr egg them on. If you’re not careful, or if you’re not respectful of other viewpoints (and given what we heard about the writers’ room…), you end up with no one who’s willing to step forward and confront their boss with constructive feedback or a challenge to their preconceptions.
That’s how you go from being capable of very good work to churning out sludge. And television, like a lot of show business, is a lot about who you know and who you’re friends with, especially when it comes to who gets to be a showrunner, director, or producer. This isn’t a secret, many people who know a lot more about it than I do have spoken in intimate detail about how hard it is to break into the system, which is dominated by white men.
And I bring that up because this kind of genre work – violent, nihilistic, hopeless – is especially beloved by white men. We had grimdark writers and shows before – we even had dystopias before The Hunger Games, there’s nothing new under the sun. But I believe we’re now drowning in that kind of material for very specific reasons. Certain types of fantasy enter mainstream popularity, I’m convinced, because of the shifts in cultural attitudes and understanding. Tolkienesque high fantasy was all the rage when Americans were convinced we’d traveled too far into modernity and political corruption; they wanted a vision of powerful nature and extreme nobility. Urban fantasy, which played with the synthesis of the natural (”real” world) and supernatural, peaked just as people were beginning to connect with each other in new and intimate ways via the internet and burgeoning social movements.
And now we’re seeing the fantasy that’s popular in the aftermath of those movements, and it’s preoccupied with the end of the world. (Because of course calling attention to flaws in the system, like racism and transphobia and misogyny and homophobia, that’s going to bring it crashing down on our heads! You’re weakening the system by questioning it! Maybe the system is flawed, but without it there’s chaos!) It’s also fascinated with a vision of the apocalypse which still, somehow, bestows all advantage and privileges onto straight white men. Because even without the system in place, these creators kink on the idea that those privileges and advantages are inherent.
(And if it’s not post-apocalyptic, it’s somehow “way way back in the past,” but it’s still the same shit. And people call it “historical” and “realistic,” completely ignoring actual historical records or events that contradict them seven ways to Sunday.)
Yes, these creators believe they’re making good art, because it scratches their subconscious itch to think that the system which benefits them is all-enduring, whether we go deep into the past or are flung into the future. And creators like Rothenberg will call themselves “progressive” for putting someone other than a straight white man at the center of those stories, even though their never-ending suffering only reinforces the subtext that such characters shouldn’t really be the heroes, and they will be punished for thinking otherwise.
That’s the art which resonates with them on a gut level. So they think it’s important, and they will keep making it. Despite what anyone else tells them.
If I appreciate anything that came out of the Lexa debacle, it’s the thoughtful and thought-provoking commentary, the challenge to the established order in an industry that really does have its head too far up its own straight white arse.
First Nation people harassed, beaten, arrested for protesting a dangerous pipeline in their territories. Black people murdered by police. No justice.
how come in tv shows and stuff lesbian couples are always two femme white girls, one blonde and the other brunette like why always those two hair colors
theory: all lesbians across all of television are just reincarnations of the same two girls who keep dying
Yes, it’s true and yes it’s grown from the racism of white male showrunners and the ignorance of viewers.
Might be worth noting, though, at least one of X/G’s known lives were an older Indian woman and a younger Indian man (a dialogue about racism in the show was around even then).
Here’s hoping the basic problems with these soulmates (the scarcity of POC versions) is tackled with the Xena reboot. No reason either has to be a brunette or a blonde or white, except to further a damaging trope. And what would be wrong if Xena or Gabrielle or any other characters in the series were trans?
The reboot has the potential to break a lot of barriers. I hope the production team (should they get a green light) is up for it.
As for all their alt-universe versions, very happy they exist(ed), hope future versions reveal better representation.
Okay non-European tumblr, I’m gonna explain to you why ‘white’ isn’t as simple here as it is in the rest of the world
– Shades of white in Europe range from ‘freshly fallen snow’ to ‘I am frequently mistaken as being from the Middle East’
– White European is a thing. When you fill out a form, under ethnicity, there are several options for white; white British, white European, white other. Because people make that distinction
– There are Europeans who don’t class their ethnicity as their skin colour, but as their nationality. I have family who don’t think of themselves as white, they just think of themselves as Italian and don’t really give much thought to their skin colour
– People here in Britain always question if darker skinned white Europeans are ‘actually white’. I get it a lot myself. My response is always ‘well I’m not anything else, so obviously I must be’
– Despite being white, a lot of Europeans from Italy, Greece, Spain etc, don’t feel white in the traditional sense. We’re not white like white British people. We’re not white like white Americans. We’re our own white. White British is one thing. White Italian is another thing. White Greek is another, etc
– Which is why we have this notion here in Europe of ‘nationality over race’. Being white isn’t as important as where you’re from
– So this really only becomes an issue if you’re an immigrant
– So being white in Europe doesn’t save you from racial discrimination, because sure, you’re technically white, but you’re not white white. Not the right white
– Here in England, Europeans with really blatantly foreign names, such as myself, find it more difficult to get job interviews, because they take one look at our name and don’t bother reading the rest of the CV. A guy I know was actually told by his boss to reduce the pile of CVs he had by ‘chucking away any with a name you can’t fucking pronounce’
– And then even when you do get an interview, half the time you walk into the joint several shades darker than everyone else and feel like you’ve walked into the ‘Swedish supermodel’ clubhouse and you just know you’re not getting hired
This is all basic stuff and it’s very much taken for granted here. Race and ethnicity are not as clear cut, so it can be very confusing for non-Europeans to wrap their heads around. Which is fine. But I implore you to stay in your lane, because when you say things like ‘no white person anywhere in the world ever knows what it’s like to face racial discrimination’, it’s really fucking offensive to all of the European immigrants who are denied jobs, harassed by the police and beaten by racists, because foreign is foreign to these people, and they don’t give a shit if you’re technically white. So when you mean white American, say white American.
This doesn’t just apply to “darker skin” Europeans either (which I’m sure some Americans would argue are POC for some reason or other). Try being slavic in Western Europe. Hell, try being Sinti or Roma in any part of Europe.
Especially in the UK you can be as white as you like but if you aren’t from Britain (or in some cases just England) then you face discrimination. It really isn’t that clear cut in Europe and it drives me mad when people say white people can’t experience racism because that’s such a US-centric idea.
And if you’re from anywhere in South-East Europe then you should prepare for your country to be slandered in every UK paper. Seriously, you can’t turn on the news, go on the internet, read a newspaper, without being told how Romanian, Ukrainian, Polish people are a drain on the UK’s resources and they should be banned from the country. And guess what?
(That’s Mila Kunis. She was born in the Ukraine.)
(Sebastian Stan. From Constanta, Romania.)
(Mia Wasikowska, from Poland)
(Nina Dobrev, who was born in Bulgaria.)
They are white! Just because they are white, it doesn’t mean people from their countries cannot face horrible discrimination, and it doesn’t mean that they can’t be constantly told that they don’t work as hard as people from Western Europe, and that they don’t deserve basic human rights.
So just before you force your ignorance onto people who don’t hold the same views as you due to where they live operating in a different way, just remember that not everybody lives in America.
Here it is guys, the post that finally puts what I’ve been trying to say for far too long into words!
This. All of this when Americans try to educate me on racism in Europe.
Thanks so much babe. Here y’all go. This is far more in depth than I was planning to go. So glad OP made this.
^^^
this is really good, tumblr is usually reaally us-centric and doesn’t understand that there are other ways to view/relate to race/ethnicity
Post-Hitler’s Nazi Germany, there is still the idea of a ‘master race’ – ie: ‘the right white’ and the poison of its idea is still with us. Remember those ‘noble’ Englishmen who sided with Hitler? Their ‘children’ are still with us. Brexit is one of them.
1500 cases from 1990-2016 (that we know of). And to clarify, this lists comprises of brown and black lives.. there’s so many names I could add to this, we are far from this post-racial utopian society people try to paint us as. In some areas in the UK, black people are 17x more likely to be stopped and searched. Black bodies mysteriously die in cells while the IPCC torments the families with biased investigations that they were never here to seek justice for them. Just this February Sarah Reed a black British woman died under mysterious circumstances in her cell. Tell me how a black woman who was sexually assaulted in the psychiatric hospital she was put in ended up in prison? She was also a victim of police brutality a couple of years ago. In 2012, police broke the neck of science student Julian Cole leaving him brain dead while the family still awaits his justice in 2016!
We need to know why our lives are seen as so disposable. We need to know why black people are over represented in the custodial system and why such racial prejudices exist in the criminal system in the first place. They purposely hide the history and achievements of black people in the UK so we remain ignorant and forget about our own movements in the 60s – our fights to bring in “no discrimination” laws. Our fights to be treated as equal. Many Brits don’t even know the origin of the biggest festival in Europe – Notting Hill carnival, which was political, created as a means to celebrate our heritage and culture in the face of adversity. Gangs of police have been terrorising us since the majority of our grand parents came during the windrush era in the 40s. Police brutality is nothing new. Ask your grand parents how they used to try to intimidate black folks minding their business, kidnap and beat them up only to drop them off somewhere far from home. How they’d ignore evidence pointing to members of white hate groups who would murder us, harass us and vandalise our property/businesses. This isn’t anything new. And history continues to repeat itself as the list of brown and black lives continue to be taken away/brutalised. The media may try to hide it but it’s happening.
Let’s not pretend that the UK hasn’t played a huge role in propagating the false belief that whiteness is superior. Let’s not pretend that they have not spread this through violence, pillaging countries, colonisation and slavery. Do not wipe away the history of this country and what they continue to do, to paint some utopic fantasy which you can use to compare to America. What can Britain teach America about valuing black lives? We aren’t above them at all.
The UK has a higher incarceration rate of blacks than America does
Black people are more disproportionately represented in U.K. prisons than in the U.S. The proportion of black people in jail in the U.K. is almost seven times their share of the population, whereas in the U.S. the proportion of black prisoners is four times greater than their population share” (x)
Tumblr is pretty US-centric, so boosting this as FYI.
Terence Crutcher Another one was killed today. Keith Lamont Scott. He was shot dead sitting in his car by a Charlotte Mecklenburg officer while reading a book. So many black lives have been killed, you’d think you were watching the end of a movie. This list is too long.
THIS is what really matters. THIS should go viral.
granted, i don’t know how the actual interaction transpired but, even with only the little context given, i really think this filmmaker is a fuckface, and how the audience reacted to the person’s question as well as the fact that this person who replied to the tweet actually seemed to consider this the worst question he’s ever heard at a film Q&A shows that his white fans/target audience seriously aren’t any better. like for a provocateur, Refn can’t even seem to fucking handle something simple as someone actually questioning his limited reality and perspective.
but i really don’t get the need of people of color (and woke white people) to have diversity and representation of people of color in media created by white people who are complicit in creating images of misogyny, racism, homophobia, and xenophobia and upholding conservative and traditional values that are prominent in film like hyper-masculinity. like why not use all of that effort towards supporting works by people of color and by people in non-western countries? why not question the canon as well as the other institutions that have made people like Refn well-recognized and his films critically acclaimed in his field while there are other filmmakers as talented as way more talented than him who can’t even make most of their dream projects into a reality? why not question the violent images that white people have created of other countries, of people of other nations instead?
This isn’t specifically about women directors but I agree so much with what is being said here.
My heart breaks for the girl who asked the question but their are so many women of colour out there who have made it a priority to nurture woc characters. They are out there making films often with less money and with less acknowledgement than their white peers.
Indiewire came up with a list of 115 films by and about woc (FYI I noticed that a few of these movies are either by or starring white women and were erroneously included because the list is user generated).
I know many of my followers are hungry for this type of material and I hope this helps them discover some really wonderful directors whose art is underseen and underappreciated.
‘limited reality and perspective.’
Doesn’t this describe most of the Hollywood film making community?
The Doctor Is Out 