Tag: xena

I need some hope doc, do you think we’ll ever get a new Xena?

While it makes me sad and a little angry that they missed opportunity after opportunity and waited so long, I do think we will have one, eventually.  It might not be for a while, though, as Wonder Woman is around the corner and Xena is just too closely associated.  

I do hope that whoever gets to ring that bell, they start by giving closure to the original story/fandom by having Lucy Lawless and Renee O’Connor return – if just for a one-shot – before giving us a different version, a reincarnated Xena and Gabrielle in some other time period.  For one, it would mean the original stays with LL and for another, it gives a new actor a chance for a new take that won’t interfere with or compete with what happened before.  

I just wouldn’t count on anything anytime soon.  The 25 anniversary?  I can see that.  

Calling all Xena fans

clexascience:

In relation to my project I have to know more about Xena since there’s (probably) some parallels between Xena and Lexa. Which episodes should I watch/which are considered “important” episodes within the Xena fandom? Help. I don’t know where to begin (other than just watch it from the beginning of course). 

Reading all the troublesome posts about Mon-El on Supergirl, I remember how brilliant it was to have a character like Ares on Xena.  

Ares was macho and arrogant, completely full of himself (a literal god) and had no chance with Xena. He always kept on trying of course and what was wonderful was that we could trust the writing staff would NEVER put them together.  There was almost zero stress over it.  Even if there were scenes of them kissing or carrying on, it was usually just a ploy.  Xena’s heart belonged to Gabrielle and we were never left in any doubt of that.  

You actually think you’re a better writer than Jason and the rest of the writers? Clexas really have gone to delusional level now.

viguaquis:

geryonwoods:

OK anonymous stranger on the internet super qualified to judge writing quality. Do I believe it? Let me tell you something…if they kidnapped us, put us both in a room, told us to write something to save our lives, and that they were going to shoot the worst writer of the two I promise you that by the end of the day I’d have convinced them to shoot him not just once, but twice.

😃You are amazing, i love your work.

Don’t tell them how a Xena fan fiction writer (Melissa Good) actually wrote for the show (some Xena ff writers went on to be published professionally).

In fact, fan fiction writers do go professional (some already are, they just don’t want you to know it).

Don’t mention that some of the Clexa fan fiction authors are, in fact, published authors, some even work in film.  Many famous writers/producers today have written fan fiction when they were younger.  

Oh, definitely NEVER bring up that some Clexa fan fiction receives more views (individually and collectively) than most books on the bestseller lists are able to sell hard or digital copies (3,000 – 9,000 copies is all it takes to get on a bestseller list).  It’s arguable more people have read more fan fiction than have actually watched the series (16 – 13 episodes a season and how much fan fiction is there?).   

If you want to be successful in Hollywood, you could probably spend years sucking up to enough people to get a job, without much in the way of qualification, either (I’ve never seen a showrunner with so little reported experience), or you could learn your craft, build up a following and, if you desire, seek professional representation.  

The work that goes into producing 200k page fan fiction is no different than what JK Rowling put in or what Stephen King puts in or anyone else, for that matter.  

There is so much fan fiction in this world, right now, if you could publish each one (and I’m not saying you should) in a hard format, you could probably fill a few libraries a few times over – all over the world.  

For some, fan fiction is a serious form of literature and deserves respect, certainly the writers do.  There used to be a time when it was extremely difficult to publish fan fiction anywhere.  But fans have fought for and studios and copyright holders have recognised that fan works are serious business (they are also free advertising) and nothing to scoff at.  

It is important, too, to understand that fan fiction is, basically, punk. It is rebellion.  It has helped queer people  and POC find their voice and find community and respect.  It has helped create positive representations of minorities where so little exists in ‘professional’ media.  

I do realise the anon is just trolling Clexas, looking for a response – and really, they don’t deserve it – but fan fiction is always worth talking about and any opportunity is a good one.  

dadrielle:

thedoctor-smith:

thatoneamazon:

dadrielle:

thatoneamazon:

dadrielle:

I am SO OVER anti-rebooters giving me shit on facebook

i just want more xena.

You cool,don’t let em keep you down

I want Xena to be like Superman: a franchise so embedded in the dna of pop culture that everyone knows the basics of “former warlord seeking redemption traveling with her plucky bard lover,” with endless reimaginings, I want it to live beyond just being one cult show from the 90s, I want it to be like, Sherlock Holmes persistent, with new versions for every new generation of young lady gays, ugh, I want it baaaad.

Preach it 

All the above. 

I think we all want to see LL/ROC back, it would be beautiful, hope it happens – but I think we also want this to become a new franchise that will last a long time. Call it a reboot or whatever, but there will have to be a new Xena/Gabrielle. 

Sadly, I wish NBC showed more enthusiasm for this. Just not seeing it.  With Tapert and Co working on AvED, will they veer off to return to Xena? 

I do think the potential Wonder Woman franchise has probably thrown this project off.  If they were serious on this, I think they would be moving with nostalgia marketing (license some damn Funkos), a blu ray box set, and getting some hype together to build critical mass toward a new series.  Because this hasn’t happened, a new series (even a mini-film) seems a long ways off.

Kind of an aside, but I think a bluray is unlikely no matter what, because it’s a matter of technology. I think Xena falls into the window of time when they weren’t shooting on digital yet but they were editing and adding special effects on NTSC resolution footage rather than on the shooting resolution…To do a bluray release that looked any better than the dvds, they’d have to find the original film of the show and then REDO the cutting and the special effects and the coloring and all that in order to do blurays, I think. I read a big long explanation about it in regards to Star Trek DS9 here earlier this month: http://www.treknews.net/2017/02/02/why-ds9-voyager-not-on-blu-ray-hd/

Not Great News :/

Is there such a thing as a ‘good news day’ anymore? 

If no blu rays, there’s so many other options for nostalgia marketing – even if they never go ahead with a new series.  It’s easy money. 

If everyone with the reboot was all for making Xena canon, open queer – makes me wonder if that had an impact on the reboot going ahead.  I hope not. 

thatoneamazon:

dadrielle:

thatoneamazon:

dadrielle:

I am SO OVER anti-rebooters giving me shit on facebook

i just want more xena.

You cool,don’t let em keep you down

I want Xena to be like Superman: a franchise so embedded in the dna of pop culture that everyone knows the basics of “former warlord seeking redemption traveling with her plucky bard lover,” with endless reimaginings, I want it to live beyond just being one cult show from the 90s, I want it to be like, Sherlock Holmes persistent, with new versions for every new generation of young lady gays, ugh, I want it baaaad.

Preach it 

All the above. 

I think we all want to see LL/ROC back, it would be beautiful, hope it happens – but I think we also want this to become a new franchise that will last a long time. Call it a reboot or whatever, but there will have to be a new Xena/Gabrielle. 

Sadly, I wish NBC showed more enthusiasm for this. Just not seeing it.  With Tapert and Co working on AvED, will they veer off to return to Xena? 

I do think the potential Wonder Woman franchise has probably thrown this project off.  If they were serious on this, I think they would be moving with nostalgia marketing (license some damn Funkos), a blu ray box set, and getting some hype together to build critical mass toward a new series.  Because this hasn’t happened, a new series (even a mini-film) seems a long ways off.

keyofjetwolf:

Gabby’s caught by a thirty foot cyclops, and since the farthest she’s ever been from her village was when the bad guys dragged her out of it a couple days ago, this is almost certainly the first monstrous creature she’s ever seen.

At minimum, it’s the first she’s ever been captured by.

First thing she does though, once the initial “OH SHIT WTF” rapidly fades?

“Immortal father, Zeus in heaven, curse this brute if he eats me! Torture him with the slain serpent’s blood and the crow’s droppings!“

It doesn’t WORK, but she TRIES, and I feel that the effort is the key component.

What’s more, when it fails, she immediately tries again.

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“I know Xena, the Warrior Princess!”

Then when she gets “I HATE Xena the Warrior Princess!” in reply, she instantly moves to “YEAH ME TOO THAT’S WHY I’M HUNTING HER DOWN TO KILL HER.”

All Gabby’s got right now is her mouth, and it’s such a joy to see her using it as early as FUCKING IMMEDIATELY to get herself out of trouble. (And perhaps into trouble, but that’s another thing again.) Even as she’s failing persuasion roll after persuasion roll, she doesn’t give up. One of Gabrielle’s greatest successes and failures is her unfailing certainty that SHE IS RIGHT, and I love getting to see how it works for her as much as against her.

Though more importantly in this scene, we have all these indications (again, as early as immediately) that Gabrielle already has it in her to do whatever she wants. Despite her youth and inexperience and outright naivety in places, in the larger sense, really Gabrielle never needed Xena. It’s always been Xena who needed Gabrielle.

Perfectly analysed.  

Your Xena anon is back! I saw that rb of Javi’s post about Xena updates. Seemed a little salty to me. Do you think we’re getting Xena back?

Oh that.  I think JGM is very careful in what he says, how he words things and his wording was very specific about Tapert, wasn’t it?  I don’t know if it was salt or humour or both, but I’ve a feeling JGM’s version isn’t happening – or at least not anytime soon.  

Could be wrong – would be happy to be wrong.  I still think WW is making it difficult for them to get a schedule (and, who knows, maybe the campaign for a renewal vs. reboot is having an impact?).